The David Koresh Transcripts:
Precis of Study on Joel and Daniel 11
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This is a tape sent to "Brother Steve and friends", and later addressed to "Brethren in Wisconsin" (see the note above on this being a fuller version of the " Letter to the Wisconsin Brethren").
The Bible study begins with Rev 10. Verse 1 refers to an angel "clothed with a cloud and a rainbow was upon his head and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet were pillars of fire", Koresh explains he his dressed like this because in Deut 32 "my doctrine shall drop as rain and shall distill as the dew" (Deut 32:2a).
Joel 2:28 speaks of the "former and latter rain", the latter rain referring to God's message of truth given to his people at the end of time.
Rev 10:2a refers to "a little book". What is this little book? Is it Daniel as Adventists believe? John was not allowed to write down what was in the book - so "there is a message... contained in the book which God has not permitted his people to fully understand".
This little book John is commanded to eat, it makes his belly bitter but in his mouth is sweet as honey. The bitterness is the responsibility of God's people in the latter days.
Koresh now turns to the book of Daniel. He covers Dan 2 (the image), Dan 7 (kingdoms as beasts) and Dan 8 (additional information on Dan 7). These beasts are the kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
Cyrus, king of Persia, understood the prophecies and returned God's people to their land, even though the people themselves did not understand the prophecies. Alexander the Great died to fulfil prophecy, Jesus came at the appointed time told in Daniel 9. Today Rev 10 is telling us about our time, through "his servants the prophets".
In Daniel 9 we notice that Daniel is studying Jeremiah, and its message is revealed to him by the angel Gabriel in chapter 11. Now the books of Isaiah, Hosea, Obadiah, Jeremiah and other such books were written before the book of Daniel was written, what mysteries are contained in these books? Let us look at Daniel 11, this is important because it covers the time of the end. (Koresh then quotes Dan 11:40-45, Dan 12:1-13, with comments on each section. His emphasis is on who the King of the North is - The King of the North goes into Palestine but is defeated by God's army).
"From the time that the daily shall be taken away and the abomination that maketh desolate shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days" (Dan 12:11)
"Now as Adventists it's taught that this refers to the prophecies relating to the 1260 and 1335 days, each day for a year. But there is nowhere in this Bible that it states that for the prophecy of Daniel 11 and 12 that God has given a day for a year. It does state that it is a time, times and a half which is three and a half years. We obtained that from the third and fourth chapter of Daniel where it talks about Nebuchadnezzar being a tree saying that seven times shall pass over him which was seven years. But in this prophecy nowhere can we obtain as a rule by faith a day for a year any true theological facts relating to this time period except it is literal days. And notice, there was nobody rose from the graves in 1844 was there? Neither good nor bad. The only people that were delivered in the book were those who were a part of the judgement of the dead."
Having asked a number of questions about Daniel 11 and 12, Koresh suggests we turn to the book of Joel to see if there is anything to help us. In Joel 1 we find there is a famine in the land, "the meat offering and the drink offering is cut off from the house of the Lord" (Joel 1:9), in the margin for "meat" is says "oblation or bread offering", the bread and the wine. After covering Joel 1-13 and explaining how Joel 1 shows a "nation is come upon my land" causing a famine, Koresh says "We can see clearly in this prophecy of Joel that according to Christ, if He was the sacrificial Lamb, which we know He was sacrificed in the morning died in the evening, fulfilling the daily, then when Christ was taken away he gave to His people bread and wine stating that "as often as you do this you do show the Lord's death till He come"... we see in this prophect this northern army... has taken from God's people.. the ability to keep a meat offering and a drink offering". All they can do is cry to the Lord.
Now what happens? Joel 2:1 God delivers his people from the invading army, "for the day of the Lord cometh for nigh it is at hand" (Joel 2:1). The people in God's army are described as "they shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks: neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded" (Joel 2:7-8), "these people what Joel talks about cannot die". So we have God's land being made desolate because a nation comes upon it and tears it to pieces, but God raises another army at the day of the Lord. "But I will remove far from you the northern (army)" (Joel 2:20a).
So Joel shows God's people have to endure hunger, "no prophesying before the northern army is driven out" - only after these events have taken place "will I pour out my spirit upon all flesh" (Joel 2:28).
"I'm trying to get your minds to see that Joel is the same prophecy as Daniel 11 and 12", and consider this in the light of Revelation 10.
"Zechariah explains clearly that a young man in the last days goes to Jerusalem to measure the city, to see how big it is. Well I went there in 1985 to see if a actual 144,000 could really stand there. It's impossible. But the angel of the Lord appeared and clearly stated that "Jerusalem shall (not) be inhabited (as) towns (with walls but as towns) without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: For I, saith the Lord, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her" (Zech 2:4b-5).
"Brethren, this is a very basic tape... if we do not have the extra oil that's presented by the spirit of prophecy which is the revelation of His own testimony, we can never, never be a part of God's final work".
"Ellen White states 'precious light is to shine forth from the word of God and let no man presume to dictate what shall or shall not be brought before the people in the message of enlightenment that He shall send and so quench the spirit of God'".
"I send my love. If I have offended any I apologize in the name of Christ, but I will not apologize for the truth which is the only life we have in Christ, the word of God, the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of prophecy. The Lord bless you to understand. Research this tape. Look at the prophecies of Joel. Seek hard, pray hard and believe the word."