New Perspectives on Seventh-day Adventism
To see a World in a grain of sand,
And a Heaven in a wild flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And Eternity in an hour. Christ be with me, Christ within me, 
Christ behind me, Christ before me, 

Christ beside me, Christ to win me,
Chirst to comfort and restore me,

Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ in quiet, Christ in danger,

Christ in hearts of all that love me,
Christ in mouth of friend and stranger
Light
Light
The visible reminder of Invisible Light.
Numb the hand and dry the eyelid,
Still the horror, but more horror
Than when tearing in the belly.

Still the horror, but more horror
Than when twisting in the fingers,
Than when splitting in the skull.

More than footfall in the passage,
More than shadow in the doorway,
More than fury in the hall.

Dead upon the tree, my Saviour,
Let not be in vain Thy labour;
Help me, Lord, in my last fear.

Dust I am, to dust am bending,
From the final doom impending
Help me Lord, for death is near.
Lead Story
The burnt offering primarily was typical of Jesus life and His experiences on this earth. But as we shall see it has a secondary and wider application in the life of each one of us   

Read our new lead article by Sailor on Melchizedek.
Read Sailor's article on Melchizedek

Now read Sailor's other recent articles:
Read Sailor's article on The Burnt Offering
Read Sailor's article on The Purpose of the Law
Read Sailors's article on the The and the Sabbath

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Church Reform
The Seventh-day Adventist Church should have been and could still be a powerful witness for truth to the world if and only if it rolls back the clock and undoes the massive error it made in the 1840s when it consciously and intentionally chose to turn it's back on the Bible to follow a recognized and obviously false prophet.   
Can the SDA Church Reform Itself?

Read our articles by Patricio Menéndez on why the SDA church should admit they were wrong about the Investigative Judgement and Ellen White.

Read Pat's Article on the Investigative Judgement
Read Pat's Article on the future of the Seventh-day Adventist Church
Study Early Adventist Publications for yourself

The Ellen White Debate
"Our ultimate concern is that which determines our being or non-being. Only those statements are theological which deal with their object in so far as it can become a matter of being or non-being for us" Paul Tillich

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Should the SDA Church admit Ellen White was not a Prophet?

Read our astonishing article by Patricio Menéndez on why the SDA church should admit they were wrong about Ellen White being a prophet. Once you have read the article vote in our poll to register your opinion.

I firmly believe that if at that time people had reacted for God rather than to keep their status and personal prestige and taken the steps to return to "Sola Scriptura" there would NOT be dozens of Sabbath keeping churches but one and rather than 11 million or so members there would be 111 or more million members. The SDA church would hold a prominent position in the field of religion. There never would have been "cult" status labeling the church either!! The SDA church has a unique collection of Biblical truths tarnished by a false prophet and the resultant unbiblical teachings. Thanks to the success of Satan's plan the SDA church has been driving down the road of time with two wheels in the ditch. Now read the Full Article

The Debate

Response to Patricio's Article
Patricio's Reply

Seventh-day Adventist Traditionalist New Perspectives Dialogue
Evangelical theology is concerned with Immanuel, God with us!
Having this God for its object, it can be nothing else
but the most thankful and happy science!
Karl Barth, Twentieth Century Theologian
Introduction to Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue
Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue Part 1
Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue Part 2
Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue Part 3
Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue Part 4
Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue Part 5
Traditionalist-New Perspectives Dialogue Part 6
Seventh-day Adventist Roman Catholic Dialogue
I said to a man who stood at the gate of the year
"Give me a light that I may tread safely into the unknown".
And he replied
"go out into the darkness and put your hand
In the hand of God.
That shall be to you better than a light
And safer than a known way"
Minnie L. Haskins, Teacher and Author
One second before Awakening from a Dream Caused by the Flight of a Bee Around a Pomegranate Introduction to SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 1
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 2
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 3
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 4
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 5
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 6
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 7
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 8
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 9
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 10
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 11
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 12
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 13
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 14
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 15
SDA-Roman Catholic Dialogue Part 16
New Perspectives on Seventh-day Adventism
But the fountain sprang up and the bird sang down
Redeem the time, redeem the dream
The token of the word unheard, unspoken

Till the wind shake a thousand whispers from the yew

And after this our exile
Ash-Wednesday, T.S. Eliot
The Seventh-day Advent Part 1: The Law of Christ
The Seventh Day Advent Part 2: The Seal of the Spirit
The Seventh-day Advent Part 3: The True Sabbath
The Ten Commandments and the Covenant
On Evening and Morning Sabbaths
The Sabbath Truth
The Veil of the Law
New Perspectives on Ellen White
Someone calls to me from Seir,
"Watchman, what is left of the night?
Watchman, what is left of the night?
The Watchman replies,
"Morning is coming, but also the night.
If you would ask, then ask;
and come back yet again."
Isaiah 21:11-12
Swans Reflecting Elephants An Introduction to the Thought of Ellen G.White
The Great Controversy
Ellen White and the Apocrypha
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses...
A Vision for a New Seventh-day Adventism
If the lost word is lost, if the lost word is spent
If the unheard, unspoken
Word is spoken, unheard;
Still is the unspoken Word, the Word unheard,
The Word without a word, the Word within
The world and for the world;
And the light shone in the darkness and
Against the Word the unstilled world still whirled
About the centre of the silent Word.
Ash-Wednesday, T.S. Eliot
A Vision of Seventh-day Adventism
What is Seventh-day Adventism?
Which Seventh-day Adventist are You?
Are You a Protestant or a Catholic?
Are You a Protestant or a Catholic? (Applet Version)
Are You a Protestant or a Catholic? (Explanation)
The Ordinance of Humility
Critique of Traditional Seventh-day Adventism
Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but my ears you have pierced;
burnt offerings and sin offerings
you did not require.
Then I said, "Here I am, I have come -
it is written about me in the scroll.
To do your will, O my God, is my desire;
your law is within my heart."
Psalms 40:6-7
Metamorphosis of Narcissus Traditional Seventh-day Adventism and the Law
Traditional Seventh-day Adventism and Holiness
Traditional Seventh-day Adventism and the Covenant
Traditional Seventh-day Adventism and Religion
Traditional Seventh-day Adventism and Sunday
Traditional Seventh-day Adventism and reading the Bible
Traditional Seventh-day Adventism: A Dialog
The Law and Traditional Seventh-day Adventism
Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
The Hollow Men, T.S. Eliot
A Source of Error in Bible Doctrine
The Ten Commandments in Exodus
Twenty-One Issues Still Unanswered about the Law
The Law - Summary of Arguments
Misunderstandings about the Law
The Law - Reply to Criticisms
The Bible and Homosexuality
Dialogue with Traditional Seventh-day Adventists
All this was a long time ago, I remember,
And I would do it all again, but set down
This set down
This: were we led all that way for
Birth or Death? There was a Birth, certainly,
We had evidence and no doubt. I had seen birth and death,
But had thought they were different; this Birth was
Hard and bitter agony for us, like Death, our death.
We returned to our palaces, these Kingdoms,
But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation,
With an alien people clutching their gods.
I should be glad of another death.
Journey of the Magi, T.S. Eliot
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Theology of New Seventh-day Adventism
In that day I will summon my servant Eliakim son of Hilkiah.
I will cloth him with your robe and fasten your sash around him
and hand your authority over to him.
He will be a father to those who live in Jerusalem
and to the house of Judah.
I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David;
what he opens no-one can shut, and what he shuts no-one can open."
Isaiah 22:20-22
Wall Decoration for Helena Rubinstein New Theological Perspectives
Creation
Law, Salvation and the Gifts of the Spirit
Myth and Truth in Sanctuary Theology
Prophecy and Ecclesiology
SDA and Homosexuality
The Photo-Image in Seventh-day Adventism
The Theology of Adventism
Bombard the Headquarters
Contributions to the alt.religion.christian.adventist newsgroup
Then the LORD called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit
at his side and said to him, "Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark
on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things
that are done in it."
As I listened, he said to the others, "Follow him through the city and kill, without
showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women
and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary."
So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple.
Ezekiel 9:4:6
The Persistence of Memory Notes on the SDA Newsgroup
Creation and Evolution
New Light
The Law and the Sabbath
The Gospel of Thomas
Seventh-day Adventism and Gender
Miscellaneous
SDA Related Links
You know and do not know, what it is to act or suffer.
You know and do not know, that action is suffering
And suffering action. Neither does the agent suffer
Nor the patient act. But both are fixed
In an eternal action, an eternal patience
To which all must concent that it may be willed
And which all must suffer that they may will it,
That the pattern may subsist, what the wheel may turn and still
Be forever still
Murder in the Cathedral, T.S. Eliot
Clock Explosion Spectrum
Ellen White Web Site
The Great Controversy Site
Web Site of the Seventh-day Adventist Church
Seventh-day Adventist Bible Prophecy Books
Vegetarian Food
Prophecy Made Easy
Club Adventist - "The Place Where Adventists meet"
Buy adventist books at a discount
Get Adventist Books at full price
Creation Seventh-day Adventist Church
Bible Version Controversy
Resources for the Study of the Book of Revelation
The Book of Revelation Mailing List Archives
Bread of Life, a Seventh-day Adventist Independent Ministry
Bread of Life Research
The General Association of Davidian Seventh-day Adventists
The Shepherds Rod
The Shepherds Rod Research Center
Davidian Seventh-day Adventists
SDA Independent Ministries Web Ring
World Wide Church of God Links
Do not make the kingdom of heaven a desert within you.
Do not be proud because of the light that illuminates, but
be to yourselves as I am to you.
For your sakes have I placed myself under the curse,
that you may be saved.
The Apocryphon of James
Man with his head in the clouds Which Old Testament Laws Apply to Christians Today?
Study Papers About Old Testament Laws
Articles About Jesus Christ, the Gospel, and the Bible
The Painful Truth
Links to Sites Critical of Ellen White and Seventh-day Adventism
There are two Ways: a Way of Life and a Way of Death,
and the difference between these two Ways is great.
The Didache
The Outskirts of a Paranoid Critical Town Seventh-day Adventism Exposed
Ellen White Web Site
The Ellen G. White Website!
Ellen White on Race
Links to sites supportive of Ellen White
Being at one is god-like and good, but human, too human, the mania
Which insists there is only the One, one country, one truth, and one way.
The Root of All Evil, Holderlin
Imperial Monument to the Child-Woman Ellen-White.com
Ellen G. White Writings from the Ellen G.White Estate
Selected Issues Regarding Inspiration
The Ellen G. White Estate
The Real Ellen G. White Web Site
Ellen G. White Books
The Spirit of Prophecy
Ellen G. White Writings Database
Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi Sites
Here I sit and wait, old shattered law-tables around me
and also new, half-written law-tables.
When will my hour come?
Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Nietzsche
The Happy Unicorn Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi page
New Bacchiocchi Book Unmasks Life After Death Fallacy
Sabbath vs. Sunday - An Internet Debate
God's Festivals
Sunday or Sabbath Debate
Rediscovering the Sabbath
A LOOK AT THE POPE'S PASTORAL LETTER DIES DOMINI
Samuele Bacchiocchi on Revelation 20:10
Biblical Perspectives
Andrews University Bacchiocchi Page
Robert Brinsmead Web Sites
Robert Brinsmead was an SDA theologian who left the church in the late 1960s following disagreements about righteousness by faith. He has since become a very articulate critic of Adventism, arguing in great detail that Adventism does not have a clear understanding of the gospel. These sites containing writings by and about Brinsmead, both for and against him.
Raphaelesque Head Exploding The Writings of Robert Brinsmead
Verdict Index
Ekklesia
Present Truth Magazine
The Verticle Order
About Brinsmead
The Importance of the Covenants
Really, Really Bad Theology
The Shaking of Adventism
The Painful Truth quotes from Brinsmead
Dr Desmond Ford Web Sites
Dr Desmond Ford is an SDA theologian who also disagreed with the church over righteousness by faith, however he remains a critical supporter of the church, defending much about Adventism but arguing for change where he believes it is needed. These references contain writings by and about Ford, both for and against him.
Santiago El Grande Dr Desmond Ford's Good News Unlimited Web Site
Talks by Dr Desmond Ford
Adventist Today FORUM presents:"Reflections On Adventism" an interview with Dr. Desmond Ford
Daniel 8:14 The Day of Atonement And the Investigative Judgment --by Desmond Ford
General discussions on Ford
Sermons by Dr. Desmond Ford from Life Assurance Ministries
What do Adventist scholars say about the Bible and the Adventist understanding of Daniel 8:14?
The One True Church The Church Universal by Desmond Ford
Analysis Of "Will the Real Seventh-day Adventist Church Please Stand Up," Written by Ralph W. Martin
Desmond Ford Asks: Is the Seventh-Day Sabbath Christian?
The Abomination of Desolation
The Truth About Predestination by Dr Desmond Ford (BIBLE STUDIES by Aggelia Internet Publishing)
Richard Frederick's Statement and Update
SDA Anonymous
Great Facts On Plagiarism
Origins of GNU
In Memory of Walter R. Martin
How Firm Our Foundation Desmond Ford vs. the Advent Movement
Is the seventh day Sabbath still important if you believe in grace?
A Prophecy for the SDA Denomination by Eoin Giller
More Than a Shade of Difference The Tragedy of the 1888 Message Study Committee by Kevin Paulson
What Seventh-day Adventists NEED to know
Investigative Judgment
RECONCILED
RELIGIOUS LIBERTY
Bibleprophecy.net
AIP free index
The Prophecies of St_ Malachay
Responses to Adventism
Click here for document written by Dennis Rainwater,
a fourth-generation SDA who left the church.
An updated version of this document was placed on this site on 11th November 1999.

Jim Moyers is another fourth-generation SDA who has left the church. His web site contains the following articles:
Leaving The Garden: On Being An Ex-Adventist
Psychological Issues of Former Members of Restrictive Religious Groups
The Apocalyptic Background of the Seventh-day Adventist Church Zoroaster to William Miller

Ampurdanese Yang and Yin
Miscellaneous Links
Nor on the other hand do the ignorant love wisdom and desire to be wise, for the tiresome thing about ignorance is precisely this, that a man who possesses neither beauty nor goodness nor intelligence is perfectly well satisfied with himself, and no one who does not believe that he lacks a thing desires what he does not believe he lacks.
The Symposium, Plato
The Colossus of Rhodes A Great Theology Web Site
An Introduction to David Koresh and the Branch Davidians
Christian Judaism
More Christian Judaism
Historical Implications of the Messianic Jesus
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